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I was just wondering how Squeak is doing.  It had seemed that the surgery was rather urgent and she was in some discomfort as of the last update.  She seems like such a nice horse.
Tricia, thank you for posting and asking about Squeak.  It looks like we failed to update Squeak's thread here and had put it somewhere else on the forum and forgot to add it here.  Squeak recovered from the ordeal of the tooth being pulled, the catheter in the nasal cavity for flushing, etc.  We were going to do her surgery shortly after she recovered from that part of things, but then she sustained an injury that made us have to postpone the surgery for some time.  That took us into the beginning of winter and feeding hay, and it was decided that since she was doing so well in all respects and was having no issues with having the hole from the tooth, that we would postpone the flap surgery until a later time.  When she has the surgery she will not be able to have any hay at all, but could be on pasture, so at this point we are thinking we may wait until there is enough pasture in the spring to have the surgery done.  Or if the vet recommends it sooner, we will do that and then have to keep her locked up for quite some time with mash feedings.  Right now we are hitting February and Squeak is still doing great.  As far as the surgery, until mulling it over with the vets again, we are not positive whether that will be in the next month or so or if we will wait until later spring to do that, but it will be getting done.  
Sounds like a plan!  Thanks for the update.
Jaime E.
Any updates on Squeak? Was nice to see you guys at the fair!
Squeak is doing very well!  Thanks for asking.  We did get a good look in her mouth on vet day and the hole in her mouth has decreased in size (it will never close and it is still huge, just decreased a little bit).  She will be having surgery soon, and we will all have to hope for the best when that does happen.  We will surely post and let everyone know when Squeak goes in for that.
We would like to let everyone know that the grass is green and we are no longer feeding hay,  we have now been able to schedule Squeak's surgery for May 18th. This surgery is a big deal and has a 60% - 80% chance of success. Please wish Squeak the best of luck on her big day on the 18th. Assuming there are no complications, she will be back to the MHWF farm on the 19th.

Yay for Squeak!

Update: 5-7-2017

Prima Atlantis now has her surgery scheduled for May 18th. Assuming there are no complications, we can pick her up on the 19th and make her available for adoption a week or two after her dental surgery. Squeak is a wonderful horse in every way and when she is finally ready to be adopted, someone is going to get a fantastic horse.

In a few minutes we will be taking Squeak to the vet clinic for her surgery.....wish her luck! This surgery has a moderate success rate and she needs all the luck she can get.
Sending you Love miss Squeak and all the luck in the world..  Keep us informed.  She is a true gem and deserves the best.
Jane B.
Good luck Squeak! You have a lot of people pulling for you! Hugs pretty girl!
Hang in there sweet girl ....you are in good hands
I hope all goes well!
This surgery has about a 50/50 chance. The skin will either graft properly and be a success, or it will tear off or get infected. We will do the best for Squeak, but she needs more than surgery, she also needs a pile of luck!
The results of Squeak's surgery did not bring any good news. We are leaving in a few minutes to pick her up from the vet clinic and will share more details later on.
Oh oh--that doesn't sound good. And this miserable cold and rain, too.

Scott: MHWF
Without going into great detail, the surgery failed for Squeak. The tissue around the hole in her mouth is simply not strong enough to hold the skin flap or the stitches. This was the risk we know going into her surgery. 

Sadly that leaves Squeak with a very sore nose and mouth, a week of flushing and antibiotics and she has some pain and is in a stall for the next 5 days.

After that, it leaves us with two choices, neither are very good. Put her down, or let her live like a horse, out to pasture, with her buddies, hoping that she does not have any complications from the hole in her mouth (having it cleaned out a couple/few times a year and probably courses of antibiotics here and there). This is probably wishful thinking, but we are going to give her that chance. As long as there is a small chance for her to live comfortably this way, we will take it. When and if it acts up and becomes a problem, we will have little choice but to put her down.

It seems a shame to spend all that money on a surgery that has a 50/50 shot at working, but Squeak is a good horse and if the surgery worked, she would make someone a fantastic partner. So to us and certainly to her, it was worth the try.

Now that we know the answer as to how the surgery will go, we just have to hope she heals back up and that the permanent hole in her mouth gives her little or no trouble. Sadly, we cannot win them all, but we can at least be confident that we gave her our best shot.

This is why it is so important to have your horse's teeth at least looked at once a year. This started as a simple cavity, no big deal, but it went untreated and eventually infected the bone. By the time we got Squeak, the tooth was broke in 1/2 and had to come out. When the tooth had to come out, it left a hole that was big enough to get 4 fingers into, it had eaten away that much bone. There is a good chance that not dealing with that tiny cavity when it first appeared will cost a very good horse her life and that is really sad. We wish this was better news, but we have to be honest in saying that her chances of living a healthy, happy life and very slim at this point, barring some small miracle.
Thanks for giving her every chance!
Josey E.
Just was reading about Squeak, what a shame!  Got a question, if you could JUICE fresh Wheat grass  and Alfalfa tips, Carrots and a apple or 2 for her this would give her the nutrients she needs to heal her.  Juicing works wonders in humans, should do the same for animals.  

If YOU ever seen the movie "Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead" by Joe Cross, available on Netflix and to purchase on Amazon, you know how well it works on humans.

Not trying to add to your work load, just making a suggestion.

Barb S
We know that you will do what is best for Squeaks. Wishing her and you both the best.
Terrible news. We are spoiled with lots of happy endings on this forum. So sorry this didn't work out.
Lisa B.
Well that just stinks!

I'm sure it has been thought of, but is there any other area where tissue can be harvested to cover the hole? I'm thinking of skin grafting or using leg veins for bypass, etc. Or mesh implant type options?

Lisa, part of the problem lies in the fact that the tissue all the way around the hole is so compromised and the vet feels will not "take" a graft.  Keep in mind how huge this hole is as well as the bone and tissue degeneration in the area when thinking of grafting.  
There are procedures that could possibly be done, if a vet specialist were willing to do, that would involve breaking bone and very intense reconstructive surgery that could cost thousands upon thousands of dollars, and then even at that, would have a very poor chance of being successful.  We have to do the wise thing and what is best for Squeak, and we wouldn't put her through something like that anyway, especially with the huge risks involved.  

Squeak is on antibiotics and pain medication right now, and she also has to have a balanced diet through this to keep her healthy, her gut working properly and not foundering.   

Donna R
I'm very sorry to hear that the outlook for Squeak isn't more positive.  I know you guys will do what is best for her.  You always do.  I'm hoping for a miracle for this sweet horse.
Don and Marianna
So sorry to hear about Squeak.  All you can do now is let her be a horse and enjoy every day she can with her pasture mates.  She may be able to have several years left pending no complications.   Karen, you are so right about a horse's teeth and how important it is to at least have them checked once a year by a vet.  We had extensive work done by a Equine Dentist on our two guys, and in doing so, found some major problems and got them corrected before damage was done.  A healthy mouth in a horse is so important.  Wishing Squeak the best.
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