| Tricia W |
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There is a place on the highway just outside of town that has two horses. I grew up in this town and have seen the one horse there for many many years. Probably close to 20 or 25 years. The other horse was added about five or ten years ago. The horses are across from the local high school. They are seen on a daily basis by many many people. They usually have a round bale of hay in with them and a big water tank. But the older of the two horses is skin and bones. I probably fell victim to not seeing it sooner because I always glance but never really look at the two horses. They have been there for so long. Now I am just sick everytime I see that poor horse. It has all this hay and I seen it eating the other day but it is still skin and bones. I am guessing it needs dental care and different diet considering the age. It probably has other issues too. I am so worried for the horse. I got my counties Humane Officers phone numbers and I am prepared to call. I am just worried that it will be ignored because the horse has hay and water. Any tips! This horse will doubtfully make it thru the winter with out help. I am angered that they will just let it starve to death cause that is what it looks like. I am also amazed that it is still there considering the amount of people who see this horse every day. I just keep thinking 'What do those horse loving high schoolers think of it?' |
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| Karen-MHWF |
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| #2 | Tricia, get some good information from your vet regarding elderly horse care to give to the authorities, just in case they do not have someone on staff who knows these things. Please don't think that they will not help right off the bat, they will probably help as long as they know the circumstances, and hopefully that is to get the people to get the proper dental work done and give the horse the proper diet (education is the first priority to people) DJ was a victim of not being properly cared for because of his dental issues, etc., and even though he had hay and water he was still confiscated by the county because of his deplorable condition, because the owner would not act on what he was educated to do about the condition. |
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| Tricia W |
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Karen - Thanks for the tips. I never thought to call the vet. I called the Humane Officer because I can't stop thinking about it. I had to leave a message. I also emailed my vet to get some info to forward to the officer. I just can not ignore it cause I think of horses like DJ and my Tardy (rip) who need that special diet to keep weight on. I hope everything works out for the horses sake. |
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| Karen-MHWF |
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| #4 | Oh, you have a humane officer, God bless your county! That will help tremendously as humane officers are trained. It still won't hurt to get the info from the vet to give them, just in case and have that handy if you need it.
Good luck and let us know how it goes! It can take a really long time to get that weight back on an elderly horse, so if they do get the dental exam/treatment and start feeding a good diet, it still may be a while before those bones disappear. |
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| Jessica |
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| #5 | Good Luck!
There has always been two or three draft type horses on the side of HWY 51 (I39) just south of Stevens Point and were skin and bones and have always wanted to call someone but now I have not seen those horses there the last couple of times I have driven by. I am going to have to keep my eye out better next time I go by. |
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| Kristin |
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| #6 | I recently picked up a mare who was in a similiar situation to DJ. We were there to pick up a mini donkey and I could see her in her paddock. I asked the man about her and although he was regretful he said he'd sell her too. Said she's his best riding horse but he just can't take care of all his animals anymore. I looked at Dan and he just said nodded in agreement. I hadn't even gone within 50 feet of her I just knew that she needed some help. She is 20ish and was a BCS of 2. The owner didn't have a clue as to why she's so thin. I suspected dental issues and had the vet out right away. Poor thing only has 3 molars. It's been exactly one month and with deworming, senior feed, soy oil, and lots alfalfa hay(which she is getting down just fine) she has gained a considerable amount of weight. Not to mention her frame of mind. She is actually a very good girl, and I am hopeful that by next spring I will be able to see how her riding really is.
Maybe these people just need to be educated on how to care for a senior horse. Hopefully they care enough to listen to advice. |
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| nancy m |
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Regular forum followers know that I came to horses later in life. Much of my experience and learning is due to MHWF and the three horses I have adopted..Kastahna, Kermit and Apple Jack. I tend to gravitate to older,gray, special needs Arabians.[I tell people that is because the owner..me..is older, alittle gray, and has special needs] It took me a long time to realize that sometimes what I thought was abuse was just plain ignorance and not cruelty. I have seen it at every level. From back yard horse owners like me to expensive horses at some class A shows. My immediate thought is what the h l are you thinking. I still struggle with that but I am not as quick to judge. Just like "adoption is the best option" education is also the best option. |
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| Tricia W |
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| #8 | The Deputy who is one of the two humane officers in our county called me back last night. He was very nice and understood where I was coming from. I am not out to get anyone in trouble and that my concern is that the horse is elderly and needs more care then what is being provided and maybe the owners need a little more education. He said they were going to contact the owners and evaluate the situation and go from there. Standard procedure. I asked them to keep my name out of it as I don't want any harsh feelings going around.
I do feel a sense of guilt. I think it is because I don't want to be a 'snitch'. But I could not in good concience watch that horse die. It sure has to be hard to do this in an extreme case like Baby Cakes and Grace. Not to mention just doing it everyday. Thank you again Scott and Karen for doing everything you do for the horses! |
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| Scott Bayerl: MHWF, |
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| #9 | There is no reason at all to feel any sense of guilt and the term snitch does not apply to these situations.....here's why.
1. The horse cannot speak for itself and we as caretakers of our animals have a duty to speak up for them.
2. Simply calling to file a complaint does not get anyone in trouble. Trouble only comes to them if they ignore the humane officer's requests to improve the care of the animal in question. |
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| Tricia W |
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Thanks Scott. I was looking at it from the wrong angle. You are so right. |
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| Beverly |
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Someone I know just put their horse down in June because a lady stopped by with 2 bales of hay saying I know times are hard an I see your horse is thin. These people had hay an it was being fed beet pulp but I don't know how much of that. It was an older horse 20ish an she felt that since she couldn't afford a lot of vet work an special feed she was better off putting her horse down before someone turned her in for animal abuse. That was a shame. When my horse started losing weight last fall I had the vet out an Chico's teeth were the worse he had ever seen he said. Work was done on them an I got beet pulp which I soak plus he does get senior feed an the weight went back on. Chico who I thought was 21 is closer to 30+. If these people care for their old horse I hope they see why he is losing weight an get it taken care of. |
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| Karen-MHWF |
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Actually, that is more of a good thing that these people actually spent the money and had their elderly horse euthanized rather than leaving it suffer and starve because they couldn't afford to take care of it properly. It would be more of a shame to watch the poor horse suffer to death. I for one am glad that the woman had the fear of being turned in, at least the right thing was done. She could have looked for another home as well, but that is nearly an impossible home to find, so she did the right thing in my book. The responsible thing. |
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| doreen |
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| #13 | I agree with you, Karen. Sometimes it can be easy to be on the outside looking in, and think we know what the owner should be doing; but we have to remember that we dont always have all the information. Euthanizing a pet, is never an easy decision, but in many cases it is the correct one for that situation; for that animal and for that owner.
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| Lori W |
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I agree. Much better than starving to death or ending up with a kill buyer. Sad situation, but I think she did the right thing. |
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| Karen-MHWF |
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| #15 | You are so right Doreen, a person does not always know all of the details. I know though that I would much rather see someone humanely euthanize their horse that they cannot afford to properly care for rather than having that horse suffer until it dies a painful death.
Before I had Hercules euthanized he got very thin. We were doing everything in our power to help him through his issues and that included a couple of vet visits. I was never paranoid that someone would turn me in when they saw him, because it was documented that we were trying to help him and his health condition was documented. Unfortunately, we could not help him, he had cancer and we had to euthanize him. I tend to think that if someone is paranoid that they are going to get in trouble, there is probably a reason, because you can't get in trouble all that easy if you are doing the right things.
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| Laurie L. |
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| #16 | I'm glad the horse is going to get some help in the form of education being offered to the owner about how to care for an elderly horse. And I also agree with Karen about there being nothing wrong with euthing an animal that you don't believe you can properly care for. I really don't even care if someone decides they need to euth a young animal for these types of reasons. Much better than pawning the animal off into what could be a worse overall situation in the long run. Good homes are hard to find, especially in this economy.
That said, I'm not a person to call animal control or whatever when I see something like this. I'd talk to the owner myself first, ask if there was something I could do to help, maybe chit-chat about how difficult it can be to keep feed on an older horse and what kinds of things I've used that worked well. If the owner was an asshat about it, yeah then I'd make a call.
I'm not afraid of telling folks what I think and as I've gotten old, I'm better at delivering my message in a better way. In any case, I'm glad the horse in question will be on the radar. |
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| doreen |
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| #17 | Again, Karen, I agree completely with what you are saying. Being skinny is not in and of itself a sign of abuse/neglect. There are many horses that can be in poor condition but are being treated and are still content with their lives.
I think we have to be careful about seeing a skinny horse and assuming it is neglected/abused/not being fed properly. There can be many unknown factors, and Laurie L, I'm in agreement with you, too. If at all possible, I prefer to contact the owners before taking any other action.
That said, I dont have any feeling about this particular case, as I am not there, have not seen the horses etc. A responsible and knowledgable horseperson has to make decisions based on what they see and feel, and be able to walk away knowing they did the best they could in that particular situation.
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